South Norfolk District Council have brought the curtain down on the Chip n Bin trial. Well thank goodness and good riddance!
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Whether trying to accurately quantify waste or recycling amounts individually, as a basis for Pay as you Recycle, or Pay as you Throw taxation; it has proved, expenisive, unreliable, making collection times inefficient; basically a waste of time. We could have told them this.
What great reasons to bin it! Its a corrosive, stazi and techno-bureaucractic concept, like bringing NASA shuttle technology to invade and victimise individual poor or viable home habits. Its vinegar rather than honey approach.
The landfill tax fines should be shared communually via council tax, or broken down to a ward level. Equally the rewards /profits of recycling and credits should be passed on to communities or high recycling composting wards by a discount or reduction in Council Tax amounts, or enhancements of community services. This would be the greatest £££ back general incentive/ encouragement to recycle/ create product. Norwich recycles 27% (up from 16% 24 months ago), and this could easily be broken down to ward level by general sampling annually, as opposed to targeting individuals week on week.
Disliking recycling is akin to kids not wanting to go to school, or grown men to the dentist.
Landfill tax, other than jail sentences, there aren't other mechanisms. If it wasn't the EU, it would be Westminster.
Landfills harm the environment and causes diseases, noone one wants them near them, running out of them. Incinerators harm the environment cause diseases, noone wants them, they are expensive
Recycling is the cheapest; but like walking to the local shops some can't be bothered and calling for a waste taxi solution. Sorry they are not provided by the council.
Iron man your waste is yours, not mine, not the councils. There's no away. Sort it out!
Council is saying it increases my council tax bill for disposal costs of your wishful wasting and others. I simply don't agree subsidising getting rid of your waste out of my pocket, when the recycling option breaks even, or saves the council tax payer present and future haemorages. Its not a right, and councils have the right to cut expensive, wasteful services. Disposers are Council Tax Scroungers/Squeelers, not savers, IMO! They want an exorbitant guilt edge and deadthrow disposal (black hole) service, I want a sustainable and affordable recycling servive, with minimal disposal. The black holes are running out! New thinking/attitudes required!
Wrong, landfill tax is designed for the UK as it was proved peoples health in close proximity to landfill in South Wales, Yorkshire was suffering really badly. Nooone wants incineration/landfill near them. Look at Suffolk. Virtually no licenced landfill left and a whole communities up in arms with pitch forks about incinerators in Mid Suffolk. I saw beautiful heather moorland , countryside or grade III agricultural land dug up (in the wilds), spoiled, polluted, trashed for good with garbage/plastic so you and other can continue you out of site, out of mind, someone else sorts it, I pay my disposal service wack gov mindframe. Vomit!!!!!!!!
Truth is residents will accept in relative terms a house built next door (they will moan/oppose at planning) than a landfill/incinerator built next door (knives out/over dead bodies), or even 5kms away. Inconvenience/rural NIMBY v health/illness/death/smells; mmmmmm,,,tricky choice!!!!
If you can't accept the need to optimise recycling, or to be bothered/too lazy, that there is no environmental black hole/away; pay a special disposal 3x more tarriff for the volume service.
Well having planted 000's oaks and beeches, with a highly -ve carbon footprint, this is a great individual response, rather than talk about then or a few token numbers for the conscience /symbolism. However they can't deal with converting the masses of excess CO2 levels. Its got way beyond this.
3Rs before machines. Machines are more costly £40/T (higher council taxes) than recyling (cost neutral/revenue) and should only be used for dimmishing tonnage of mixed waste that is not easy to recycle. The waste hierarchy applies. Reduce,Refuse, Recycle/Compost; then only machines after. Emissions and waste rubbish need cutting' recycling by individuals being responsible and taking responsibility; not palm off/ put the responsibility on others..
We are custodians or wreckers of the planet. People who don't/won't recycle, let their carbon footprint get big, are not good custodians with a poor excused legacy.
Even if every person planted 4 trees each, covered back all that lost forest from food/agricultural land, it would not make a huge GAIA rebalancing impact. It would be like trying to stop a supertanker with a parachute. Well apart from starving with no food land for 6bn+ population.
In 50 years the globes just put up 500m years worth accumulation/ carbon capture of of fossil fuels. Fact. Scientist are measuring CH4 massive releases and rises from permafrost and continental shelf sediments.
If people don't act with waste black hours, skyfillin, fossil fuels, spread new technologies; prevaricate on; we can rename Earth -- Venus II - The 2nd Permian - only suitable for cactus, snakes and scorpions.
True to name madTosh on GW, you read fiction/ fringe conspiracy/ rag nonsense than science. .Its human nature to focus on where the next meal comes from, bills to pay, the next monthly pay check, or job security; apart from food supply, most is a totally different argument from GW effects, thus todays valid, but easy distraction away from long term global warming effects. Yes the next 5years are going to be very rough. Billions in India/ China want our livestyles, with a finite or diminishing extractable resource supply. Price rises/ lack of credit/ economic good feel reflex this.
People in Yarmouth might have a 10% house price /equity problem in 5 years from the current credit crunch; but a 100% equity reduction in 50-100years from GW/Sea Level/Coastal erosion/surge events. Mad you mearly reflect the typical 100years in Solutude mentality. Too myoptic on next weeks problems to worry about long term wipeout catastrophes .This is my limit to fiction/analogy.
As a person who's seen the effects in Spitsbergen, St Georgia, Canada, New Orleans, Bangledesh, knows a bit about pollen and ice oxygen isotope analysis/ impacts on wildlife; London and other UK cities including future Norwich are at grave risk. I'm not even paid to say this. Many of us knew 25 years ago, based on now confirmed and SLR predictions that the Thames barrier was a short term sticky plaster. Stick around.Having an very independent mind, looking at the evidence and science both sides and 98%:2% weight against; man enhanced global warming is very high; and denoucers are mear Ostriches with heads in sand. Idiots with little else to do. Conspiracy has taken over there every day neo cortex , 100 years in solitude mentally; getting scratched about short term events; get wiped away by the long term pattern and map that was always there. Basically sea level rise changes of minimum 0.75m over the next 100 years will affect 80% of 6bn people/cities if we do the right things; 5-10 metres [Greenland/Antarctic ice shelf; thermal dynamic sea water expansion effect] we follow on regardless like Ironmad, or those hopeful the stacked ice in the glass science experiment; is defied magically on a global effect.
Insurance companies; many US big corporation (former antis, now see the magnitude of the GW effects on their businesses, turnovers and profits) are now driving governments into GW action/ collective policies. Non seroiusly challenges Stern economic arguements, most agree. Now these companies do their homework, exploy their own experts, scrutinise the death Climate Change science, for easier ways out. They haven't dented the science, indeed identified how vulnerable their own businesses are.
Short term economics like Food, Energy Prices, housing/mortgages in UK etc are huge short-medium term problems like banana plantations going bust in 100yr/Solitude; but these are overcome, solutions found and 99% of peop le come through scatched but alive. WWII most people came through, scarred, but readjusted their lives on ration cards, bikes, no plasmas; Maggie, 1980's shakeout (10-15% unemployment, 15% interest rates, 20% inflation) most people suffer pain, readjust but survive.
Climate Change effects enhanced by human fossil fuel us, a factor of 6bn expanding world human population is the greatest mid-long term challenge for humans, not the earth. The second issue is access to Food/resources. Climate change effects generally shrinks food supply, we can see it in US wheat/corn production/harvests, add the biofuel land demand. We could see wars; perhaps a regional or World War. Hope not.
So if you can reference anything scientific and peer reviewed.. lets have it...lets have it all. Otherwise stop the fiction, bluesky madtosh and cyberBS on GW.
I don't need to beleive anything. Increased GW effects does care about human one world order concepts. Crap happens, more serverely, more often. If you had done your scientific research, scientist agree that the frequency and likihood of CAT 5 huricance events on the Southern US coast was significantly higher; was due to man made GW as the Gulf of Mexico sea temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico. New Orleans is a Delta, Bangledesh a floodplain and delta. This came from FEMA. Their science oncurred that if GW sea temperature inpact were not modelled, Katrina would have been CAT 3, the US Engineers flood defences would have withstood, not overtopped/breached, and were designed for a CAT 3 event. GBush decided not to listen/ cut these specific FEMA dept budgets, [because he was into the natural event only thing mentality like madTosh]and got GW burnt, saw the need to listen to Climate scientists/ protections and mend his natural event thinking. This was his Damascus event that he and oil companies could no longer deny/osterich away. Typical, like much of his Iraq/Afghan/ war on terror BS./ neocon overreaction.
SL rises, and the same sea temperature in the Bay of Bengal is making flooding /weather event impacts in Bangledesh more servere, more frequent and catastrophic.
I've looked, and knew, its utter Tosh, good script material for the next 007 film. No science as requested. Global conspiracies are more abound a the nearest student union or mothers union come to that.
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